Why use both Twitter and Jaiku? What are the differences? Can't really see any myself.
8 months, 1 week ago in Tower.
25 comments so far
Oh you are trying to start a religious war there!
Jaiku is about conversations, Twitter is about everyone shouting
at everyone else. Both have their place. Noise level on Twitter can
be overwhelming but the fact remains that more people in my
industry are there and not here so I have to stay engaged
there.
At the moment I have 8 people in my friends list and to be
honest it is enough to be monitoring. You have 134, can't imagine
monitoring that much info. Are there interest groups in Jaiku,
where it would filter your friends etc? It is a bit overwhelming at
the moment if you monitor large numbers of conversations.
The level of communication on twitter is infantile and
narcissistic - typically something along the lines of "Am in X
restaurant meeting important person Y" - fine if your a
20-something with delusions of importance. Jaiku lends itself to
conversation. OTOH hand someone recently summed up the difference
like so (I'm paraphrasing) "The difference between jaiku and
twitter is, no one talks about jaiku on twitter". Jaiku is for
those who've gotten over themselves and prefer conversations to
statements.
Still can't understand how the two posters above, @conoro and @sxoop can monitor the number of
friends they have on Jaiku! You must both sneak the laptop into the
bog with you in order to keep up!
Jaiku is really just a filtered (by user) forum isn't it? I
monitor videography forums etc, must invite some guys onto Jaiku,
created a WeddingVideography Jaiku channel earlier tonight. Cound
be very useful.
@sxoop "The difference
between jaiku and twitter is, no one talks about jaiku on twitter"
That's because they are sitting over here obsessing over the fact
that Jaiku is a ghostland and that Twitter seems to have a much
rounder discussion menu. Tonight being the exception with the whole
Scoble/Plaxo fest. Personally, I can't believe the amount of
characters wasted on Jaiku by people obsessing over the
Twitter/Jaiku question.
@sxoop I understand your
natural instinct to jump in there and champion Jaiku. But being a
zealot about 'this is better than that' misses the point about
these services. They are very different.
Gorton, a specific example is hardly indicative of any trend.
Sample size is much too low. This discussion is a dead man walking
at this stage. If you want to take a look at the different sides to
the arguments, look at the history of them. This discussion is
dated.
I blame jaiku noobs. So far we've had the same question asked by
Pat Phelan, Tom Raftery and many others. It's usually an innocuous
question asked by twitter emigrees shortly after they join jaiku,
not by me though - I was a jaiku zealot from day one ;-p
@johnm - Dealing with
message levels on either site is not really a fuunction of number
of contacts but the individual volume. Some people I unsub from due
to incessant prattle, others because (even tho they are
interesting) I just can't keep up. Interestingly I'm very close to
dunbar number on Jaiku and currently over it on Twitter.
Channels work very well here and are a great filtering
mechanism.
@sxoop Not always by noobs.
Sometimes it's started by true-blue Jaikuers jealous of Twitter.
Jaiku is the Luxembourg of microblogging services. The real magnet
ought to be the conversation. We ought to follow that. At this
point in time, for me, it's on Twitter. We all have to make that
choice.
I cross post from Jaiku to Twitter (forget which service I use
for that) - imagine that would cause fun for people who follow me
on both. Should only be an issue when (if?) I get more popular.
Like conoro said I think "Jaiku is about conversations, Twitter
is about everyone shouting" I actually only joined Jaiku couldn't
see the point to twitter when it was first buzzed about it, but I
thought I would try it out after all the talk of it over here. Half
an hour with it and I gave up, after first half an hour on here
loved it. To be honest I think the main reason so many stay with
twitter who are also here is because of the big name guys on
twitter.
And I hate the way people cross post all you get is one random
line, irrelevant out of context, with "from Twitter" at the end and
its impossible to track the relevance back on twitter.
(no offense @ciotog I
don't personally follow you so I don't know what your tweets are
like)
@sxoop May I suggest that
when the J-newbie surfaces with the same question, we all reply in
caps? That all-caps response would inform just by appearance.
On a serious note tho, Pownce only appears to have 3800 users
(going by number of invites to the launch party). I haven't seen
one app built using the API. We did our little LouderVoice
integration and not one hint of response from them. You'd think
they'd be happy to leverage any buzz. I think I'll mail Leah about
it and see if she engages at all.
25 comments so far
Oh you are trying to start a religious war there!
Jaiku is about conversations, Twitter is about everyone shouting at everyone else. Both have their place. Noise level on Twitter can be overwhelming but the fact remains that more people in my industry are there and not here so I have to stay engaged there.
8 months, 1 week ago by conoro.
At the moment I have 8 people in my friends list and to be honest it is enough to be monitoring. You have 134, can't imagine monitoring that much info. Are there interest groups in Jaiku, where it would filter your friends etc? It is a bit overwhelming at the moment if you monitor large numbers of conversations.
8 months, 1 week ago by johnm.
Just looked at Channels, answered my own question!
8 months, 1 week ago by johnm.
The level of communication on twitter is infantile and narcissistic - typically something along the lines of "Am in X restaurant meeting important person Y" - fine if your a 20-something with delusions of importance. Jaiku lends itself to conversation. OTOH hand someone recently summed up the difference like so (I'm paraphrasing) "The difference between jaiku and twitter is, no one talks about jaiku on twitter". Jaiku is for those who've gotten over themselves and prefer conversations to statements.
8 months, 1 week ago by sxoop.
Still can't understand how the two posters above, @conoro and @sxoop can monitor the number of friends they have on Jaiku! You must both sneak the laptop into the bog with you in order to keep up!
8 months, 1 week ago by johnm.
Jaiku is really just a filtered (by user) forum isn't it? I monitor videography forums etc, must invite some guys onto Jaiku, created a WeddingVideography Jaiku channel earlier tonight. Cound be very useful.
8 months, 1 week ago by johnm.
@sxoop "The difference between jaiku and twitter is, no one talks about jaiku on twitter" That's because they are sitting over here obsessing over the fact that Jaiku is a ghostland and that Twitter seems to have a much rounder discussion menu. Tonight being the exception with the whole Scoble/Plaxo fest. Personally, I can't believe the amount of characters wasted on Jaiku by people obsessing over the Twitter/Jaiku question.
8 months, 1 week ago by lexia.
@lexia agreed. We've heard this record so many times before. I always rise to the question - I need to stop doing that.
8 months, 1 week ago by sxoop.
@sxoop I understand your natural instinct to jump in there and champion Jaiku. But being a zealot about 'this is better than that' misses the point about these services. They are very different.
8 months, 1 week ago by lexia.
Recently I invited my friends to use Twitter and Jaiku. My 10 Jaiku invites got used up in a day or so, none of them have signed up to Twitter.
8 months, 1 week ago by gortron.
Gorton, a specific example is hardly indicative of any trend. Sample size is much too low. This discussion is a dead man walking at this stage. If you want to take a look at the different sides to the arguments, look at the history of them. This discussion is dated.
8 months, 1 week ago by lexia.
I blame jaiku noobs. So far we've had the same question asked by Pat Phelan, Tom Raftery and many others. It's usually an innocuous question asked by twitter emigrees shortly after they join jaiku, not by me though - I was a jaiku zealot from day one ;-p
8 months, 1 week ago by sxoop.
@johnm - Dealing with message levels on either site is not really a fuunction of number of contacts but the individual volume. Some people I unsub from due to incessant prattle, others because (even tho they are interesting) I just can't keep up. Interestingly I'm very close to dunbar number on Jaiku and currently over it on Twitter.
Channels work very well here and are a great filtering mechanism.
8 months, 1 week ago by conoro.
@sxoop Not always by noobs. Sometimes it's started by true-blue Jaikuers jealous of Twitter. Jaiku is the Luxembourg of microblogging services. The real magnet ought to be the conversation. We ought to follow that. At this point in time, for me, it's on Twitter. We all have to make that choice.
8 months, 1 week ago by lexia.
I cross post from Jaiku to Twitter (forget which service I use for that) - imagine that would cause fun for people who follow me on both. Should only be an issue when (if?) I get more popular.
8 months, 1 week ago by ciotog.
I can't see the point to Twitter. Never have and probably never will. Jaiku I like.
8 months, 1 week ago by mneylon.
Like conoro said I think "Jaiku is about conversations, Twitter is about everyone shouting" I actually only joined Jaiku couldn't see the point to twitter when it was first buzzed about it, but I thought I would try it out after all the talk of it over here. Half an hour with it and I gave up, after first half an hour on here loved it. To be honest I think the main reason so many stay with twitter who are also here is because of the big name guys on twitter.
8 months, 1 week ago by CiaranR.
And I hate the way people cross post all you get is one random line, irrelevant out of context, with "from Twitter" at the end and its impossible to track the relevance back on twitter.
(no offense @ciotog I don't personally follow you so I don't know what your tweets are like)
8 months, 1 week ago by CiaranR.
@conoro: @CiaranR: I like the shouting vs conversations analogy :)
8 months, 1 week ago by mneylon.
You changed your mind then Michele? http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/200...
8 months, 1 week ago by DamienMulley.
What's most interesting from my point of view is that any of us spend any amount of time defending or championing one over the other.
8 months, 1 week ago by EirePreneur.
We can all have our cake and twitku too.
8 months, 1 week ago by topgold.
@sxoop May I suggest that when the J-newbie surfaces with the same question, we all reply in caps? That all-caps response would inform just by appearance.
8 months, 1 week ago by topgold.
Wow! Looks like I really opened a can of worms here!
8 months, 1 week ago by johnm.
Yere all wrong, Pownce is where it's at ;-)
On a serious note tho, Pownce only appears to have 3800 users (going by number of invites to the launch party). I haven't seen one app built using the API. We did our little LouderVoice integration and not one hint of response from them. You'd think they'd be happy to leverage any buzz. I think I'll mail Leah about it and see if she engages at all.
8 months, 1 week ago by conoro.